**Our last episode found Casey Luskin buying more of what we were selling than I’d have thought possible. Today we continue our tour, and things get what passes for interesting around there.**
After a couple more questions that were skirted or barely answered, our sparkly eyed and bushy browed guide seemed to be satisfied with our credentials both scientific and conservative. He then took the opportunity to inform us that science was his personal passion, and that he considers himself a scientist.
I’m waiting for my blue ribbon and gold medal to arrive for not dying of laughter at that point.
As we walked further down the bland halls, somehow the conversation turned to Michael Behe. Kate, for the first time in this visit not lying, admitted that she was unsure how to pronounce his name. I shouldn’t have been surprised to hear that my pal Casey hasn’t the slightest idea, either.
(An aside – prior to our arrival, Kate and I weren’t one hundred percent on how we were going to approach this thing. One thing that struck us as hysterical at the time was to just ask for “Michael BWA-HA!” and see what happened, since whenever we read any of his work we can only think: “BWA-HA!”)
We arrived at the desk of a similarly dressed, equally boring young man whose name I don’t think was shared with us, but if it was, I’ve long forgotten it and am using the space in my brain it took up to think about what I’m to do when the wine runs out.
Our guide fairly beamed as he told us about this fine young man’s work, a website he’s just as proud of as a papa can be. A backwards, nearly illiterate, dangerous fundamentalist of a papa, but a papa nonetheless. The fruit of Casey’s brain-loins? This lovely piece of IDiot spew, which he wants us to know was set up to help dispel all the misconceptions and outright lies about ID that people like Richard Dawkins and PZ Myers spread.
As Kate and I were doing a terrible job of smiling, nodding and barely choking back the mixture of giggle and vomit that was rising, a tankwoman charged over, dressed in pink and sporting a gold necklace that, upon further inspection, was two crossed rifles over a heart. With a glare that actually frightened me a bit (and you may have guessed that’s not the easiest task) she demanded to know what we were doing there.
Fortunately, while Kate and I scrambled to answer, our tour guide and brand new knight in white shining armor literally moved himself in between us and the pink clad terror, and told her we were here on a tour with him. She smiled just enough to convince us that she wasn’t going to have our heads on a pike just yet, and introduced herself as Anika , before going back to her photocopying.
By this point, we had begun to want out, badly. There was no way this could end well, we thought, and were frantically trying to hide our grins as we followed Casey back down the hall.
We came to a stop in front of a bookshelf, where he asked us what aspect of intelligent design we were most interested in. Kate jumped in quickly, and oddly said that it was the legality of the situation that intrigued her most. Given that we had loudly claimed that she was a science teacher interested in teaching ID in her classroom, this maybe should have raised a flag or two, but instead all it did was spur him into action.
**Tune in one more time for the exciting conclusion, where we gain a glimpse into just how scary Mr. Luskin’s mind is, and go home with armfuls of propaganda and a heartfelt offer to call or visit anytime.**
September 3, 2008 at 5:53 am
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September 3, 2008 at 8:06 am
Nice posting, I’ve linked over to here from Pharyngula. I guess I’m in two minds about this; the story is riveting, but I’m uncomfortbale about the deceit.
September 3, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Perhaps it makes me the stereotypical, evil, atheistickal librul, but I, for one, am entirely comfortable with this particular deceit. I only wish I had thought of this myself. This is the sort of exploit you could retire on.
September 3, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I’m actually more than comfortable with the deceit. I’m proud of it, and greatly amused.
These people work for an organization that is built on deceit, and on actively working to lying to people about science and reality.
So I’m good with it, but I understand why it might make some feel a touch squirrelly.
September 3, 2008 at 7:21 pm
OK this is the funniest thing ever, please give us more!!
September 3, 2008 at 9:45 pm
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September 3, 2008 at 10:05 pm
This story is amazing. I can’t wait for the thrilling conclusion!
September 4, 2008 at 5:48 am
I disagree with Kent. I find it to be a dull story about a non-event wherein two people who purport to be skeptical and interested in knowledge thoroughly waste an opportunity like popping by the Discovery Institute to have a chat with Casey Luskin. I would relish that. And I’m scientific skeptic and atheist.
Contrary to what Cronan said, the deceit is fine, but the story is… the OPPOSITE of riveting. You went in drunk, fumbled around, and, just when it had a chance of getting good, you giggling schoolgirls had thoughts of “wanting out”.
BORING.
I’m sure I can barely contain my excitement as I wait impatiently for the thrilling conclusion of this pointless anecdote. For crying out loud, make it interesting, even if you have to make it up…
September 4, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I’m sorry you feel we wasted a chance to have a real conversation with Casey Luskin, but here’s the thing. The man has proven time and again that he is completely immune to rational, educated debate, as well as scientific evidence. Scientists and skeptics far more educated than I have hit that man’s mental brick wall time and again.
This was simply another way of making him and the Institute appear as foolish as they really are.
We did have the opportunity to sit and talk with him a bit at the end of our visit, and it was a bizarre experience, the details of which I’m sharing when I make my next and last post about this.
I won’t be making any of it up, so it may or may not be interesting.
September 7, 2008 at 5:33 pm
but I’m uncomfortbale about the deceit.
It’s so awful deceiving the people who are trying to destroy science education in the USA. Poor baby.
September 7, 2008 at 5:53 pm
You should check out my blog, “Answers in Genesis Busted”
http://aigbusted.blogspot.com
Cheers
September 7, 2008 at 9:23 pm
As far as the deceit goes, if the author used the lies to give a false impression the DI and Luskin, as Ben Stein and gang did with Expelled, I would find the duplicity wrong.
However, the DI, Luskin and almost anyone involved with ID have shown time and time again that the only way they will ever show their true colors and ideological intent is when they believe they are conversing with their fellow conspirators or those who have bought into their absurdities. Given that, I have no real problem using deceit against them.
September 8, 2008 at 2:12 am
Deceit?
Don’t be ridiculous! James Bond’s sisters at work! Even part pissed :^)
You don’t expect a spy to put his/her cards on the table, and then expect to be told the truth?
No law’s against being feeble-minded, mate, but there are limits.
September 8, 2008 at 5:28 am
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September 8, 2008 at 9:23 am
I found this through PZ Myers webblog. You should get some kind of trophy for not gagging while acting. It is odd that this “think tank” is so secretive while any good biology program at top rate universities are open to anyone interested in a REAL theory.
ID seems like Dr Pepper: So misunderstood.
(They pretend to be when trying to convince the gullible!)
September 8, 2008 at 9:27 am
For anybody who didn’t feel like wading through more bullshit about a nonevent, here’s a summary: two drunk and relatively uneducated girls get access to DI office with Casey Luskin. The girls ask a few stupid questions and then giggle to themselves.
Like, it’s a funny storrreeeee everyone!! Come on, laugh! A ha. Ha.
Um.
September 9, 2008 at 8:29 am
For anybody who didn’t feel like reading WCh’s comment (delivered in a superior, derisive tone) here’s a summary: douchebag says “what”.
Um.
September 9, 2008 at 5:11 pm
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